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		<title>Comment on Setting a Path Early in Life by KarenR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KarenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree...a better approach might be to help them find those talents and interests rather than a &quot;job.&quot;  They can explore and develop skills around those passions and then, a bit later, be more prepared to see how they can turn them into employment. As someone who is doing several jobs that didn&#039;t exist when she was in college let alone kindergarten, I worry with you about funneling kids into college or career paths too early.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree&#8230;a better approach might be to help them find those talents and interests rather than a &#8220;job.&#8221;  They can explore and develop skills around those passions and then, a bit later, be more prepared to see how they can turn them into employment. As someone who is doing several jobs that didn&#8217;t exist when she was in college let alone kindergarten, I worry with you about funneling kids into college or career paths too early.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Setting a Path Early in Life by Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5973&#038;cpage=1#comment-199166</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on this one.  And I do teach elementary students. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on this one.  And I do teach elementary students. :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Worry, Bill Will Be Fine by Karen Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 22:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet, somewhat ironically, he admits that all students are different: &quot;These are complex questions, in part because students are heterogeneous. What works for one student won&#039;t work for another.&quot; What Gates fails to admit is that in addition to being curious, he had access to computers at a time in which that access what hard to come by. And, his son has more opportunities than the kids in my rural school division who have to travel to the library, which may be 20 miles away, in order to access all those articles and videos and online experts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, somewhat ironically, he admits that all students are different: &#8220;These are complex questions, in part because students are heterogeneous. What works for one student won&#8217;t work for another.&#8221; What Gates fails to admit is that in addition to being curious, he had access to computers at a time in which that access what hard to come by. And, his son has more opportunities than the kids in my rural school division who have to travel to the library, which may be 20 miles away, in order to access all those articles and videos and online experts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Worry, Bill Will Be Fine by Howl About These Numbers Instead</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5960&#038;cpage=1#comment-198243</link>
		<dc:creator>Howl About These Numbers Instead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 21:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the article that triggered the previous rant, both the writer and the subject, Bill Gates, make reference to the frequent howl of politicians [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the article that triggered the previous rant, both the writer and the subject, Bill Gates, make reference to the frequent howl of politicians [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by &#187; Week 14 Reflection: Assorted Stuff- Tim Stahmer Laura Lafnitzegger</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Week 14 Reflection: Assorted Stuff- Tim Stahmer Laura Lafnitzegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] says he could have called his blog &#8220;Constantly Distracted.&#8221; Instead he settled on Assorted Stuff because his blog discusses so many topics. He has included his thoughts and comments about public [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] says he could have called his blog &#8220;Constantly Distracted.&#8221; Instead he settled on Assorted Stuff because his blog discusses so many topics. He has included his thoughts and comments about public [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Read Past the Headline by Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5947&#038;cpage=1#comment-197413</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not physically possible to produce writing as efficiently on a tablet&#039;s touch screen as with a physical keyboard. There&#039;s no tactile feedback for the &quot;keys&quot; on a touchscreen, you can&#039;t rest your hands, the viewing angle is constrained by the angle you need the tablet at to type on. It&#039;s ergonomically dangerous to do extended typing on a tablet.

These are fundamental concepts -- it&#039;s not a matter of the next generation having better quality materials or a higher resolution screen or faster processor or a new innovative app. We are limited in this area by the physical qualities of fingers, wrists, and eyes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not physically possible to produce writing as efficiently on a tablet&#8217;s touch screen as with a physical keyboard. There&#8217;s no tactile feedback for the &#8220;keys&#8221; on a touchscreen, you can&#8217;t rest your hands, the viewing angle is constrained by the angle you need the tablet at to type on. It&#8217;s ergonomically dangerous to do extended typing on a tablet.</p>
<p>These are fundamental concepts &#8212; it&#8217;s not a matter of the next generation having better quality materials or a higher resolution screen or faster processor or a new innovative app. We are limited in this area by the physical qualities of fingers, wrists, and eyes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discouraging Curiosity by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Structured assessment is undoubtedly a huge factor in discouraging curiosity, because it requires students to come up with a specific, intended answer to a narrowly structured question.

Take a problem like &quot;You have $5 and Sally asks you for $1, how much do you have left?&quot; The test answer is $4. The creative answer is, of course, $5. Or maybe the creative answer is $0, because you could tell that Sally needed more than that and you gave her the whole $5, or you didn&#039;t have change so she just said she&#039;d owe you. Or maybe you remember that you have some change in the bottom of your bag, but then Sally remembers she does, too, and you both laugh and say &quot;nevermind, then&quot;.

Math makes for easy examples, but how many times has a literature teacher told a student that the teacher&#039;s preferred interpretation of a work is the interpretation that&#039;s really true and dismissed the student&#039;s interpretation? How many students asked if Pluto really qualified as a planet and were told that, for the test, Pluto will be considered a planet, because bubblesheets don&#039;t allow for students to explain their reasoning that Pluto shouldn&#039;t be a planet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Structured assessment is undoubtedly a huge factor in discouraging curiosity, because it requires students to come up with a specific, intended answer to a narrowly structured question.</p>
<p>Take a problem like &#8220;You have $5 and Sally asks you for $1, how much do you have left?&#8221; The test answer is $4. The creative answer is, of course, $5. Or maybe the creative answer is $0, because you could tell that Sally needed more than that and you gave her the whole $5, or you didn&#8217;t have change so she just said she&#8217;d owe you. Or maybe you remember that you have some change in the bottom of your bag, but then Sally remembers she does, too, and you both laugh and say &#8220;nevermind, then&#8221;.</p>
<p>Math makes for easy examples, but how many times has a literature teacher told a student that the teacher&#8217;s preferred interpretation of a work is the interpretation that&#8217;s really true and dismissed the student&#8217;s interpretation? How many students asked if Pluto really qualified as a planet and were told that, for the test, Pluto will be considered a planet, because bubblesheets don&#8217;t allow for students to explain their reasoning that Pluto shouldn&#8217;t be a planet?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unexpected Change by Paul C</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5937&#038;cpage=1#comment-197011</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim,
I completely agree that it is meaningful that Mathews has woken up to the facts about teacher quality, Challenge Index notwithstanding.   What can we (the voices of the edublogosphere) do to open more eyes?

Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
I completely agree that it is meaningful that Mathews has woken up to the facts about teacher quality, Challenge Index notwithstanding.   What can we (the voices of the edublogosphere) do to open more eyes?</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discouraging Curiosity by Dave Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5941&#038;cpage=1#comment-196967</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion it&#039;s not the testing that is discouraging kids from taking risks associated with curiosity, it is merely the attitudes and personalities of grade school teachers that get imprinted on the kids.  Assessment is a necessary evil, but in and of itself it is not even remotely connected (cognitively) to the concept of curiosity.

Kids learn a lot by example (here I mean that they observe others and behave in similar fashion), and when in grade school they spend most of their learning time in the classroom.  If their role model lacks imagination and curiosity, the result is much more likely to be a child that, outwardly, also lacks imagination and curiosity (there are going to be exceptions of course to this general influence).  But place kids in a vibrant, imaginative, curiosity-driven environment, and you will see a lot more kids engaging in curiosity-driven activities.

There are lots of good teachers out there.  There are also lots of well-meaning teachers out there.  And there are lots of poor teachers out there.  What we need are fewer of the last two types, and more of the first.  A good teacher realizes that they teach and lead by example.  I teach in a.university environment where you might think that these issues are much less of a factor.  That may have been true a few decades ago, but today students even at this level seem to lack an innate curiosity regarding the world around them.  Delayed maturity may be partly to blame.  This has been fostered by society though, and is not the fault of the kids; it is something we either need to correct (preferably), or adapt to.

I&#039;m not convinced that the major (or sole) problem with education today lies in the curriculum or in delivery methods, rather, it seems to me that it is the combination of delayed maturity and a lack of inspiration from teachers who would rather blame the curriculum, or the delivery methods, or some other pedagogical red herring.

Just an opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion it&#8217;s not the testing that is discouraging kids from taking risks associated with curiosity, it is merely the attitudes and personalities of grade school teachers that get imprinted on the kids.  Assessment is a necessary evil, but in and of itself it is not even remotely connected (cognitively) to the concept of curiosity.</p>
<p>Kids learn a lot by example (here I mean that they observe others and behave in similar fashion), and when in grade school they spend most of their learning time in the classroom.  If their role model lacks imagination and curiosity, the result is much more likely to be a child that, outwardly, also lacks imagination and curiosity (there are going to be exceptions of course to this general influence).  But place kids in a vibrant, imaginative, curiosity-driven environment, and you will see a lot more kids engaging in curiosity-driven activities.</p>
<p>There are lots of good teachers out there.  There are also lots of well-meaning teachers out there.  And there are lots of poor teachers out there.  What we need are fewer of the last two types, and more of the first.  A good teacher realizes that they teach and lead by example.  I teach in a.university environment where you might think that these issues are much less of a factor.  That may have been true a few decades ago, but today students even at this level seem to lack an innate curiosity regarding the world around them.  Delayed maturity may be partly to blame.  This has been fostered by society though, and is not the fault of the kids; it is something we either need to correct (preferably), or adapt to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that the major (or sole) problem with education today lies in the curriculum or in delivery methods, rather, it seems to me that it is the combination of delayed maturity and a lack of inspiration from teachers who would rather blame the curriculum, or the delivery methods, or some other pedagogical red herring.</p>
<p>Just an opinion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discouraging Curiosity by Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first graders haven&#039;t lost it, but the 4th and 5th graders I used to teach had. Those older kids also frequently asked, &quot;Is this for a grade?&quot; Something 1st graders never do. I think that, even before the testing mania, may be a factor.

I&#039;ve had several conversations with teachers at different levels and at different schools recently about student apathy. I haven&#039;t noticed it but many others seem to have done so. I wonder if our constant assessing, not just the state mandated tests but the practice tests and the common assessments for our PLCs and the classroom tests are doing this to them. Why care at all about school if it is ALL about a test?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first graders haven&#8217;t lost it, but the 4th and 5th graders I used to teach had. Those older kids also frequently asked, &#8220;Is this for a grade?&#8221; Something 1st graders never do. I think that, even before the testing mania, may be a factor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had several conversations with teachers at different levels and at different schools recently about student apathy. I haven&#8217;t noticed it but many others seem to have done so. I wonder if our constant assessing, not just the state mandated tests but the practice tests and the common assessments for our PLCs and the classroom tests are doing this to them. Why care at all about school if it is ALL about a test?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discouraging Curiosity by Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5941&#038;cpage=1#comment-196964</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 23:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By 3rd/4th grade students are looking for the correct answer....not the logical one....and by 6th grade that innate curiosity only appears on rare occasions.....when it shows up--it&#039;s fabulous but, as a music teacher, I watched it fade with each passing year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By 3rd/4th grade students are looking for the correct answer&#8230;.not the logical one&#8230;.and by 6th grade that innate curiosity only appears on rare occasions&#8230;..when it shows up&#8211;it&#8217;s fabulous but, as a music teacher, I watched it fade with each passing year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Homogenizing Tablets by Mark Scardiglia</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5915&#038;cpage=1#comment-195951</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Scardiglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 03:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m having a Jack-Nicholson-yelling-at-Tom-Cruise-in-the-courtroom moment here.
My counter-rant on this foolishness:
http://chaindriven.net/?p=791]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a Jack-Nicholson-yelling-at-Tom-Cruise-in-the-courtroom moment here.<br />
My counter-rant on this foolishness:<br />
<a href="http://chaindriven.net/?p=791" rel="nofollow">http://chaindriven.net/?p=791</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do You Own? by Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.assortedstuff.com/?p=5929&#038;cpage=1#comment-195868</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was also happy to see the court reinforcing the concept of first sale. I hope this ruling will help extend it to digital media (books, movies, music) but currently the DMCA and some very nervous big media companies are standing in the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also happy to see the court reinforcing the concept of first sale. I hope this ruling will help extend it to digital media (books, movies, music) but currently the DMCA and some very nervous big media companies are standing in the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Do You Own? by Eston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tangentially related: I was pleasantly surprised by today&#039;s Supreme Court decision regarding first-sale and geography. While rooted in textbooks, I think this is a win, too, for those looking to e.g. resell software, games, etc. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-supreme-court-copyright-law-20130319,0,5654337.story]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangentially related: I was pleasantly surprised by today&#8217;s Supreme Court decision regarding first-sale and geography. While rooted in textbooks, I think this is a win, too, for those looking to e.g. resell software, games, etc. <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-supreme-court-copyright-law-20130319,0,5654337.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-supreme-court-copyright-law-20130319,0,5654337.story</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Learning From Everyone by Ruth Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I can lessen the blow. You can avoid ads by installing Adaware (yes, it&#039;s free).
I recommend Feedly for a smooth transition from google reader. They&#039;ve got the smooth transition already in place.
Cheer up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I can lessen the blow. You can avoid ads by installing Adaware (yes, it&#8217;s free).<br />
I recommend Feedly for a smooth transition from google reader. They&#8217;ve got the smooth transition already in place.<br />
Cheer up!</p>
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